Okay, these are pricey but they WORK and they don’t make a mess, two attributes that have not been present in multiple other salt and pepper mills we’ve tried. These look great, feel solid in your hand, and grind smoothly and consistently. The way they are designed means all the salt and pepper stay inside—no mess all over the counter. After numerous failed purchases, we’re very happy to have these and anticipate using them for many years to come, making them a better investment than other cheaper ones we’ve tried.